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Additionally, maybe .. for offhand? (m_a_a_ .. good post, by the way) στα πεταχτά;? (I've added an extra question mark) με την πρώτη; στα πρόχειρα;

Another possibility to be considered (even if only to be rejected)? τα βάλη = the committed/the determined (defenders/fighters) = εκείνοι που "βάλθηκαν" να πολεμήσουν (those who were committed to fighting/dedicated themselves to fighting/set about fighting/defending?); τω Σφακιώ τα βάλη = the...

Keep the interesting queries coming - I'm learning something alongside you, Theseus. Glad to help (if I can here and there), and I'm sure I'm speaking on behalf of cougr (my fellow Melbournian/Melburnian)when I say you're welcome. .

Theseus, until something better comes along (I was waiting for someone else to respond)... and I get blown out of the water. put in the hard yards (which I'm more familiar with and which may or may not have the exact same meaning as "put in the hard miles"? - it probably does?) βάλε τα δυνατά...

And someone who has paid their dues and earned their right to succeed would have presumably "put in the hard yards"? Maybe by "hard miles" the surgeon was suggesting to "go hard", i.e., the opposite of "junk miles" (taking it easy/going slow, which might not bring the same benefits)?

There's a similar (sounding) idiom .... ... "do the hard yards" or "put in the hard yards" (see the definition below) The "hard yards" idiom is commonly used in Australia. I'm not sure about the UK? I know "hard yards" is a commonly used term .. hard yards plural noun. a great deal of effort or...

As long as the genre of the game (parlour game, party game, etc..) is "fantasy", of course. We're not (kids) playing a/some fantasy (or virtual reality or simulation or computer?) game, the future of a nation is being decided. This is not some fantasy game we played as kids ... ("Computer...

I wish I had seen this before opening my trap ... I didn't realise it had to do with (as Tsipras sees it) the continual shifting of the goalposts and more absurd/unrealistic last-minute demands by creditors - this is not a game of make-believe (that we played as kids), it affects the future of...

At the risk of flogging a dead horse ... :) playing (silly) games, I agree with - and "silliness" should be "front and centre" here - but I think it stops a little short of what Tsipras was implying, which is closer to "playing childish games" (IMHO). "Childish" connotes not only "silliness"...

Indeed I did. How embarrassing! :blush: Brain fade/blond moment/Pontian neurodynamic dysfunction. Thank you for your help.

Σας ευχαριστώ όλους. Δεν ξέρω αν το κατάλαβα, εντελώς .. αλλά κάτι προσκόμισα από αυτό, νομίζω. Sounds fair and reasonable, nickel - I'm sure you'd be excellent company and a font/fount of knowledge and occasionally be treated for what you bring to the table (which is worth far more than...

Thank you, dr7x .. for your quick response (7x faster response time). .. and before daeman beats me to it - το διαχρονικό πια τραγούδι του Χατζή - αφιερωμένο σε σας!

ρεφενές ο [refenés] Ο13 : το ποσό που αναλογεί στο καθένα από τα πρόσωπα μιας ομάδας (παρέας κτλ.) για τα έξοδα κοινού γεύματος, διασκέδασης κτλ.: Πόσο είναι ο ~; Ποιος δεν πλήρωσε / έδωσε το ρεφενέ του; Βάλαμε (από) 10.000 δραχμές ρεφενέ. || (η αιτ. ως επίρρ.) με κοινή συνεισφορά: Έχουμε πάρτι...

I didn't know this about the Greek phrase specifically, but ... There would be several layers and varying degrees of deception and fooling around/clowning around/pretence/ hoodwinking in all this (play-acting/make-believe, etc..) .. so I'm not surprised to see it extending to shenanigans/sexual...

I could have thrown "childish or puerile" in there too ...... childish antics, childish games, puerile behaviour, juvenile/infantile behaviour etc... Also... "Party games" are for kids ... We will not tolerate party games being played at the expense of .....?

There's "play acting" too - we might not need to specify what exactly it is that we're engaging in? We won't tolerate any more tomfoolery/antics/games/posturing/play-acting/faking/acting fake/make-believe/ farcical behaviour/clowning around/kidding around... it's time to get real/it's time for...

Δεν ξέρω αν ταιριάζουν εδώ και τα ακόλουθα. ....pantomime, masquerade, travesty; Pantomime might be the closest (as it especially refers to children - but it might be too theatrical?).

Σας ευχαριστώ αμφότερους. Αυτό που επισημαίνεται σχετικά με τα ρήματα στην παθητική φωνή θα πρέπει να λάβω υπόψη μου από τώρα και στο εξής. Για το transient element (usually element and not substance) τότε - δεν ξέρω αν ταιριάζει το παροδικό στοιχείο; Μάλλον αυτό θα είναι - there are plenty of...

Just adding ... μεταβατική ουσία .. μάλλον ... for transitional substance (indicating an intermediate, midway, intervening state) -- but in English we also have transience (a state of impermanence/being ephemeral/volatile - amenable or prone to changing from one state to another?) ..... vs...

Not that I'll ever be using these terms (that's if they do indeed exist - more than likely it's specious reasoning on my part resulting in nonsense)... but just curious. ο παραβαίνων, ο μεταβαίνων νομίζω υπάρχουν (ίσως ως δυσνόητοι όροι) ... αλλά, ήθελα να ξέρω για το μεταβαινόμενος (its...