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Meet the world's Mrs Averages. Έχει και Ελληνίδα.
Ποια μέση ομορφιά προτιμάτε;
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Διαφωνώ ριζικά, η Αγγλίδα της σύνθεσης είναι πολλαπλάσια ωραιότερη από τις Αγγλίδες που κυκλοφορούν στην Αγγλία. Και δεν μοιάζει για Αγγλίδα γενικότερα.
Και δεν είναι δυνατόν η Ισπανίδα να είναι ωραιότερη από τις άλλες της σειράς της, όποιος εχει παει Ισπανία θα έχει δει τις φάτσες που νομίζεις ότι άμα τους δεις στον ύπνο σου θα είναι εφιάλτης.
Πάντως η Γαλλίδα είναι τυπική φάτσα της ευρύτερης περιοχής Γαλλίας- Ελβετίας.
Και δεν είναι δυνατόν η Ισπανίδα να είναι ωραιότερη από τις άλλες της σειράς της, όποιος εχει παει Ισπανία θα έχει δει τις φάτσες που νομίζεις ότι άμα τους δεις στον ύπνο σου θα είναι εφιάλτης.
Πάντως η Γαλλίδα είναι τυπική φάτσα της ευρύτερης περιοχής Γαλλίας- Ελβετίας.
Μα εξηγείται από την διαδικασία που χρησιμοποίησαν. Εγώ προσωπικά δεν έχω δει ποτέ μου τόσο όμορφη Αγγλίδα, πουθενά. Όχι μόνο ο μέσος όρος που χρησιμοποίησαν έχει υπερβολικά μικρή ηλικιακή κατανομή, αλλά και ο αλγόριθμός τους είναι "χαίρω πολύ, Χαιρόπουλος". Ας πούμε, η Τουρκάλα είναι πιο άσπρη από τον πραγματικό μέσο όρο της Ελληνίδας. Γενικά, η υπέρθεση δεν είναι καθόλου καλή μέθοδος για να δεις τον μέσο όρο.
Αυτό συμβαίνει επειδή οι Τούρκοι δεν είναι ένα ομοιογενές σύνολο, όπως τους βλέπουμε στις ταινίες με τον Κολοκοτρώνη, μαυριδεροί με μαύρα μουστάκια. Υπάρχουν φυλές με ανθρώπους ξανθούς ή κοκκινομάλληδες με μπλε ή πράσινα μάτια - και μην αρχίσεις τώρα τα «ναι, αλλά κι εγώ έχω δει κάτι Έλληνες...» και στατιστικές αναλύσεις με την τετραγωνική ρίζα του πι, θα φάμε τα μουστάκια μας. :angry: :twit:
Μα ακριβώς, δεν είναι ομοιογενές σύνολο και σαφώς δεν έχω για εικόνα ταινίες με τον Κολοκοτρώνη. Αλλά στο δείγμα θα πρέπει να έβαλαν μόνο όσες παίζουν στην τηλεόραση.
bernardina
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Για μένα, η μόνη που έχει κάποιο ενδιαφέρον γιατί ακόμα και ως μέσος όρος ξεφεύγει από τον μέσο όρο είναι η Βραζιλιάνα. :twit:
Με δεύτερη την Κατωχωρίτισσα και τρίτη την Νοτιοϊνδή που μου θυμίζει Φαγιούμ... :)
Με δεύτερη την Κατωχωρίτισσα και τρίτη την Νοτιοϊνδή που μου θυμίζει Φαγιούμ... :)
Εμένα μού αρέσει η υποτιθέμενη μέση Βρετανίδα, αν και στην πραγματικότητα μοιάζει πιο πολύ με αυτό:
http://files.sharenator.com/womens_...watson_or_miley_cyrus-s500x500-112798-565.jpg
http://files.sharenator.com/womens_...watson_or_miley_cyrus-s500x500-112798-565.jpg
Μα πού σε είχαν κλεισμένο εσένα; Θα στείλω την Ελίζαμπεθ Χάρλεϊ να σε χαστουκίσει. Στην ανάγκη, θα βρω και νεότερη.
Λοιπόν, ενδιαφέρουσες μέσες ομορφιές:
Περού - Δυτική Αφρική. Και όλες οι άλλες. Αν η μέση Ινδή και η μέση Βραζιλιάνα ήταν έτσι, μπορείτε να φανταστείτε το σύνολο των ευτυχισμένων Ινδών και Βραζιλιάνων;
Για να μη μείνουν παραπονεμένες και οι κυρίες ή οι κύριοι — αναλόγως από ποια πλευρά βρίσκονται, του πομπού ή του δέκτη:
Average Greek male
Average Spanish male
Average French male
Average Irish male
Average English male
Average Russian male
Average German male
Average Polish male
Average Italian male
Average Swedish male
Aρχίστε τα σχόλια για πλάκα, αλλά για τα σοβαρά περιμένετε το επόμενο ποστ μου. ;)
+1 χ 10^10! :up:
Θέλω πολλές, γυναίκες θέλω πολλές
θέλω πολλές κι απ’ όλες τις φυλές
Θέλω πολλές, γυναίκες θέλω πολλές
θέλω πολλές, ξανθιές, μελαχρινές
Στέφανος Κιουπρούλης (ή Χοντρονάκος) - Μαριώ
Μα...
Στην Ελλάδα δε μπορώ μια γυναίκα για να βρω
έχει όμορφες πολλές, μα είναι, μάνα μου, φτωχές
Εγώ θέλω πριγκιπέσα από το Μαρόκο μέσα
να 'χει λίρα με ουρά, μια γυναίκα μια φορά
Εγώ θέλω πριγκιπέσα (Παναγιώτης Τούντας) - Στέλιος Περπινιάδης
θα μου πάρει μπαγλαμά, φίλντισι και μάλαμα
κι ό,τι άλλο θέλω εγώ, μάνα μου, να σε χαρώ
πεντακόσιοι δερβισάδες θα μας φτιάνουν τους λουλάδες
να φουμάρουμε γλυκά στο χρυσό μας τον οντά
...και σε λίγο (later that same day)...
I dreamed I was in a Hollywood movie
And that I was the star of the movie, this really blew my mind
The fact that me, an overfed long haired leaping gnome
Should be the star of a Hollywood movie
But there I was, I was taken to a place
The hall of the mountain kings
I stood high by the mountain tops, naked to the world
In front of every kind of girl
There was long ones, tall ones, short ones, brown ones
Black ones, round ones, big ones, crazy ones
Out of the middle, came a lady
She whispered in my ear something crazy, she said:
Spill the wine - Eric Burdon & War
— Am I going crazy?
— Si, aqui, pero yo no estoy aqui, mi cuerpo no esta aqui, esta volando, volando, verdad afuera...
Στο επόμενο ποστ είπα τα σοβαρά; Γράψτε λάθος, στο μεθεπόμενο ήθελα να πω.
...
Φοβού την Ντέιλι Μέιλ και δώρα φέρουσα
Timeo Daily Mail et dona ferentem
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Research the Headlines addresses the way in which research is discussed and portrayed in the media. Each post will take recent media coverage of a piece of research as a starting point, and will allow readers to get to a better understanding of what was really done, and what it might mean for them, from an expert but independent position. The blog is intended to be of interest to those with and without any training in research.
Φοβού την Ντέιλι Μέιλ και δώρα φέρουσα
Timeo Daily Mail et dona ferentem
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No Science Behind the Story
by Lisa DeBruine on 2013/10/04
© Lisa DeBruine | Face Research Lab
Earlier this week, Christine Caldwell wrote about the lack of scientific evidence behind a Daily Mail story about killer cats, warning readers to be particularly skeptical of scientific claims in news articles that fail to link to primary sources. It may just be a coincidence, but one of the most popular articles at the Mail Online this past week, titled “Meet the world’s Mrs Averages: Scientists blend thousands of faces together to reveal what the typical woman’s face looks like in 41 different countries from around the globe“, also had no basis in actual science, amounting to little more than a game of broken telephone.
I was first alerted to this story by an automated Google alert telling me that traffic on my website had increased by several hundred percent. Most of the traffic was coming from the Daily Mail website, so I had a look at the source. Imagine my surprise when I found an article about completely unfamiliar ‘research’ allegedly coming out of my own lab.
What did the media say?
The article showed images of average faces from 41 different countries. The images were described as being part of a study by “experimental psychologists at the University of Glasgow”, although specific details about the hypothesis of the research, the names of the researchers involved, the title of the paper describing the study, or the name of the journal in which it was published were absent. Similarly unattributed criticisms of the research were also discussed. Surprisingly, given that no one allegedly involved spoke to any reporters, the article includes a rebuttal to these criticisms:
In actuality, these images were created as part of an art project by Colin Spears and posted on his website more than two years ago. My lab was tangentially involved in that Mr Spears used the free online face averager on my lab’s website, but we had no other involvement in the project whatsoever.
So where did all this misinformation come from?
A bit of internet sleuthing revealed that a recent article on the photography blog Fstoppers attributed the image to my lab, citing their image source as a page at 9gag that simply shows the image with no attributing text. However, both the Fstoppers and 9gag images had a 9gag watermark, but the Daily Mail images did not. Further digging turned up a post from 2011 on Jezebel that mistakenly attributed the images to my lab (back when we were at the University of Aberdeen) and that includes a prominent response by the actual creator of the images. Jezebel attributes the source of their post as an article on Mashable that correctly credits my lab as only providing the software used to make the images, but still does not mention the original creator. They cite Photoxels as their source, who cite Reddit. The very top comment on the Reddit article is a link to Colin Spears’ website. Within half an hour of investigation, I was able to confirm the original source of the image, and confirm that this story did not have a scientific basis.
Bizarrely, a Google image search of the images from the Daily Mail led me to another Daily Mail article, this one published in 2011 and titled “Meet Miss Average from around the world as computer works out the most common face in each country“, where neither Colin Spears nor my lab are mentioned, but the same images (cropped differently) are attributed to Mike Mike, the creator of the Face of Tomorrow project. Both the 2011 article and the current one include this identical text:
Although my own attempts at contacting the writer of the Daily Mail article led nowhere, the press officer at my university succeeded in getting part of the article changed so that the image was no longer explicitly described as research coming out of an experimental psychology lab at the University of Glasgow. However, as of today, the title still contains “Scientists blend thousands of faces…”. Unfortunately, the story has already been shared on social networks and blogs thousands of times, so I am grateful that it is only a case of mistaking an art project for a scientific study rather than mistaking dangerous medical advice for evidence-based scientific recommendations.
So what can readers do to avoid being duped by news stories with no basis in fact? My best advice is to always look for a link to the original source.
The Face Research Lab is run by Ben Jones and Lisa DeBruine and is based in the Institute of Neuroscience and Psychology at the University of Glasgow.
Our research on face perception has been funded by the ERC (Europe), ESRC (UK), Wellcome Trust (UK), National Science Foundation (USA), Nuffield Foundation (UK), and NSERC (Canada).
Visit FaceResearch.org, our online psychology testing website where the Face Research Lab is running a number of short, interesting online psychology experiments about face and voice preferences. It was recently listed by the New York Times as one of the Best Online Psychology Tests. You can also learn about the technology we use for face research.
http://facelab.org
Several websites have been reporting that we made an image of the average woman from many different countries. However, we were not involved in making these images. They were created by Collin Spears using our online face averager. Our blog post at Research the Headlines explains the bizarre story behind the Daily Mail article.
http://www.faceresearch.org
Η πηγή των συνθέσεων ανδρικών και γυναικείων προσώπων, αναρτήσεις σε ένα μπλογκ από το 2009 και το 2011:
World of Averages: Europe
World of Facial Averages: Middle Eastern, Central Asian and South Asia
World of Averages: Populations of the Americas
World of Averages: Africans
World of Facial Averages: East-Southeast Asia & Pacific Islander
Random Averages
by Lisa DeBruine on 2013/10/04
Earlier this week, Christine Caldwell wrote about the lack of scientific evidence behind a Daily Mail story about killer cats, warning readers to be particularly skeptical of scientific claims in news articles that fail to link to primary sources. It may just be a coincidence, but one of the most popular articles at the Mail Online this past week, titled “Meet the world’s Mrs Averages: Scientists blend thousands of faces together to reveal what the typical woman’s face looks like in 41 different countries from around the globe“, also had no basis in actual science, amounting to little more than a game of broken telephone.
I was first alerted to this story by an automated Google alert telling me that traffic on my website had increased by several hundred percent. Most of the traffic was coming from the Daily Mail website, so I had a look at the source. Imagine my surprise when I found an article about completely unfamiliar ‘research’ allegedly coming out of my own lab.
What did the media say?
The article showed images of average faces from 41 different countries. The images were described as being part of a study by “experimental psychologists at the University of Glasgow”, although specific details about the hypothesis of the research, the names of the researchers involved, the title of the paper describing the study, or the name of the journal in which it was published were absent. Similarly unattributed criticisms of the research were also discussed. Surprisingly, given that no one allegedly involved spoke to any reporters, the article includes a rebuttal to these criticisms:
Those behind the project say that many of the criticisms are explained by the process.
What’s the real story?
In actuality, these images were created as part of an art project by Colin Spears and posted on his website more than two years ago. My lab was tangentially involved in that Mr Spears used the free online face averager on my lab’s website, but we had no other involvement in the project whatsoever.
So where did all this misinformation come from?
A bit of internet sleuthing revealed that a recent article on the photography blog Fstoppers attributed the image to my lab, citing their image source as a page at 9gag that simply shows the image with no attributing text. However, both the Fstoppers and 9gag images had a 9gag watermark, but the Daily Mail images did not. Further digging turned up a post from 2011 on Jezebel that mistakenly attributed the images to my lab (back when we were at the University of Aberdeen) and that includes a prominent response by the actual creator of the images. Jezebel attributes the source of their post as an article on Mashable that correctly credits my lab as only providing the software used to make the images, but still does not mention the original creator. They cite Photoxels as their source, who cite Reddit. The very top comment on the Reddit article is a link to Colin Spears’ website. Within half an hour of investigation, I was able to confirm the original source of the image, and confirm that this story did not have a scientific basis.
Bizarrely, a Google image search of the images from the Daily Mail led me to another Daily Mail article, this one published in 2011 and titled “Meet Miss Average from around the world as computer works out the most common face in each country“, where neither Colin Spears nor my lab are mentioned, but the same images (cropped differently) are attributed to Mike Mike, the creator of the Face of Tomorrow project. Both the 2011 article and the current one include this identical text:
The 46-year-old got the idea for his project when he was studying at London’s Goldsmiths College.
He said: ‘Sitting on the underground train, I was intrigued by the sheer diversity of the place – Somalis, Indians, Americans, Zimbabweans, Scandinavians and a hundred other nationalities vying for their place in the metropolis.
‘I thought: “What is this place, what is a Londoner?”
What can be done?He said: ‘Sitting on the underground train, I was intrigued by the sheer diversity of the place – Somalis, Indians, Americans, Zimbabweans, Scandinavians and a hundred other nationalities vying for their place in the metropolis.
‘I thought: “What is this place, what is a Londoner?”
Although my own attempts at contacting the writer of the Daily Mail article led nowhere, the press officer at my university succeeded in getting part of the article changed so that the image was no longer explicitly described as research coming out of an experimental psychology lab at the University of Glasgow. However, as of today, the title still contains “Scientists blend thousands of faces…”. Unfortunately, the story has already been shared on social networks and blogs thousands of times, so I am grateful that it is only a case of mistaking an art project for a scientific study rather than mistaking dangerous medical advice for evidence-based scientific recommendations.
So what can readers do to avoid being duped by news stories with no basis in fact? My best advice is to always look for a link to the original source.
The Face Research Lab is run by Ben Jones and Lisa DeBruine and is based in the Institute of Neuroscience and Psychology at the University of Glasgow.
Our research on face perception has been funded by the ERC (Europe), ESRC (UK), Wellcome Trust (UK), National Science Foundation (USA), Nuffield Foundation (UK), and NSERC (Canada).
Visit FaceResearch.org, our online psychology testing website where the Face Research Lab is running a number of short, interesting online psychology experiments about face and voice preferences. It was recently listed by the New York Times as one of the Best Online Psychology Tests. You can also learn about the technology we use for face research.
http://facelab.org
Several websites have been reporting that we made an image of the average woman from many different countries. However, we were not involved in making these images. They were created by Collin Spears using our online face averager. Our blog post at Research the Headlines explains the bizarre story behind the Daily Mail article.
http://www.faceresearch.org
Η πηγή των συνθέσεων ανδρικών και γυναικείων προσώπων, αναρτήσεις σε ένα μπλογκ από το 2009 και το 2011:
World of Averages: Europe
World of Facial Averages: Middle Eastern, Central Asian and South Asia
World of Averages: Populations of the Americas
World of Averages: Africans
World of Facial Averages: East-Southeast Asia & Pacific Islander
Random Averages
Εκπλήσσομαι. Η Daily Mail είναι τέρας αξιοπιστίας.