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    BTW, as a boy we learnt for tiger, lion, fishy [the present common version in these parts [a fish with a toe!?] and the other many variations the n- word, which goes back to nineteenth century America. In one book I had as a child, there was actually an illustration of someone doing this to a poor unfortunate black slave, who was drawn in an offensive style: caricature. The provenance of the rhyme seems to be America by the use of the word "hollers", even though it is used in dialect English. Its etymology seems to be a variant of C16 hollow, from holla, from French holà stop! (literally: ho there!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AoratiMelani View Post
    Επίσης ξέρω το εξής:

    Έχω έν' αυτοκίνητο
    που όλο όλο τρέχει,
    και πού θα σταματήσει;

    (αυτός που δείχνεις λέει ένα μέρος π.χ. "Αμερική")
    Στην Α-με-ρι-κή.
    Και τι χρώμα θα ζητήσει;

    (αυτός που δείχνεις λέει ένα χρώμα π.χ. "πράσινο")
    Στο πρά-σι-νο.
    Έχει και συνέχεια:

    Έ-χεις πά-νω σου χρώ-μα πρά-σι-νο;
    (κι αυτός που δείχνεις πρέπει να φοράει κάτι πράσινο, αλλιώς το ξαναλές)
    Life is an aberration; it appears under unusual conditions, where there is an abnormal amount of resources, and then proceeds to expand and evolve, consuming those resources until eventually it dies away, leaving behind only bare rock and empty soda cans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dharvatis View Post
    Έχει και συνέχεια:

    Έ-χεις πά-νω σου χρώ-μα πρά-σι-νο;
    (κι αυτός που δείχνεις πρέπει να φοράει κάτι πράσινο, αλλιώς το ξαναλές)
    Ή, όπως το ήξερα εγώ: Έχει η Αμερική (ή: έχει η ση-μαί-α της Α-με-ρι-κής) χρώ-μα πρά-σι-νο;
    Με βρίσκετε και εδώ.

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    For the etymology of "holler" and its use in the USA, see https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=holler (v.). The first counting song thus probably comes from the US.

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    ...
    Well, it's one-two, buckle my shoe
    Three-four, out the door
    Five-six, pick up sticks
    Seven-eight, well I'm a-gonna be late
    Gonna hurry, I'm gotta get my baby tonight
    She's a-back in town
    Gonna tear everything right down




    One, two, Freddy's coming for you
    Three, four, better lock your door
    Five, six, grab your crucifix
    Seven, eight, gonna stay up late
    Nine, ten, never sleep again

    Θεωρητικά, θεωρία και πράξη είναι το ίδιο πράγμα. Στην πράξη, όμως, διαφέρουν.
    When this you see, remember me and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.

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