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Eddie

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Καλημέρα σε όλους.
Ξέρει κανείς ποιος είναι ο airborne ranger;
 

Eddie

New member
Καλά όλα αυτά, τα βρίσκω και μόνος μου. Είπα μήπως ξέρει κάποιος τον ελληνικό όρο αν υπάρχει.
 

Palavra

Mod Almighty
Staff member
Σύμφωνα με τον σύνδεσμο περί Ranger από τη Βίκι, η ιδιότητα αυτή απαντάται σε λίγες χώρες, στις οποίες δεν συγκαταλέγεται η Ελλάδα. Άρα, το πιο λογικό είναι να μην υπάρχει ελληνικός όρος. Θα μπορούσαμε να σκεφτούμε έναν, νομίζω όμως ότι θα χρειαστούν κάποιες πληροφορίες παραπάνω, όπως το πλαίσιο στο οποίο θέλεις να χρησιμοποιήσεις τον όρο, τη χώρα την οποία αφορά, και κάποια στοιχεία για το συγκείμενο.
 

drsiebenmal

HandyMod
Staff member
Από τη στιγμή που η στρατιωτική μονάδα λέγεται ρέιντζερ(ς), πώς αλλιώς να λέγονται στα ελληνικά πέρα από αερομεταφερόμενοι ρέιντζερ; Άντε να λέγονται αερομεταφερόμενοι καταδρομείς.
 

daeman

Administrator
Staff member
Wikipedia:

The Term "Ranger"

There is some dispute over the use of the word "Ranger." According to John Lock,
The problems of the Ranger Tab and indeed Ranger history is in large part caused by the lack of a clear-cut definition of who is a Ranger. The Ranger Department, the Infantry School, and Department of the Army have in the past carelessly accepted the definition of a Ranger unit to include the use of terms 'Ranger-type' and 'Units like Rangers,' and 'Special Mission Units.' In his book Raiders or Elite Infantry, David Hogan of the Center for Military History writes that 'By the time of the formation of LRRP units..., Ranger had become a term of legendary connotations but no precise meaning.' For the want of a definition of who and what is a Ranger, integrity was lost. As a result of Grenada, circumstances have changed. Since 1983, men have had the opportunity to earn and wear an authorized Ranger unit scroll or an authorized Ranger Tab or both. But there is a need for a firm definition of who and what constitutes a RANGER. Without that definition, we face the likelihood of future controversy.

Organizations define the term "Ranger" in different ways. For example, the annual "Best Ranger Competition", hosted by the Ranger Training Brigade, can be won by pairs of participants from the 75th Ranger Regiment, or by Ranger qualified entrants from other units in the US military. For an individual to be inducted into the U.S. Army Ranger Association's "Ranger Hall of Fame" he "must have served in a Ranger unit in combat or be a successful graduate of the U.S. Army Ranger School." The Ranger Association further clarifies the type of unit: "A Ranger unit is defined as those Army units recognized in Ranger lineage or history." Acceptance into the US Army Ranger Association is limited to "Rangers that have earned the U.S. Army Ranger tab, WWII Rangers, Korean War Rangers, Vietnam War Rangers, all Rangers that participated in Operations Urgent Fury, Just Cause, Desert Storm, Restore Hope, Enduring Freedom, and all Rangers who have served honorably for at least one year in a recognized Ranger unit."

Ranger Creed

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Acknowledging the fact that a Ranger is a more elite soldier who arrives at the cutting edge of battle by land, sea, or air, I accept the fact that as a Ranger my country expects me to move further, faster, and fight harder than any other soldier.
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Gallantly will I show the world that I am a specially selected and well trained soldier.
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War on Terror
After 11 September, the United States began what it called its War on Terror with the invasion of Afghanistan in October 2001. Special Operations Units such as the Rangers, along with some CIA officers were the first US Forces on Afghan soil during Operation Enduring Freedom. This was the first large Ranger operation since the Battle of Mogadishu. The Rangers met with success during the invasion and, along with the other US Special Operations forces, played an integral part in overthrowing the Taliban government. They also participated in the biggest firefight of Operation Anaconda in 2002 at Takur Ghar.
 

Earion

Moderator
Staff member
Αρχίζεις από "ανιχνευτής" και καταλήγεις στον "καταδρομέα".
 

nickel

Administrator
Staff member
Όπως βλέπουμε εδώ:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commando
οι United States Army Rangers είναι η μετεξέλιξη των commandos, οπότε καλά είμαστε με τους αερομεταφερόμενους καταδρομείς. Δυστυχώς, δεν βλέπω να υπάρχει σύντομο (έστω και ανακριβές) αεροκαταδρομείς.
 

Palavra

Mod Almighty
Staff member
Εγώ πάλι πιστεύω ότι χωρίς συγκείμενο δεν είμαστε σίγουροι.
 

nickel

Administrator
Staff member
Ποτέ. Αλλά δεν πρέπει να καλύψουμε πρώτα τις κλασικές σημασίες; :)

 

drsiebenmal

HandyMod
Staff member
Προσπαθώ να επιβεβαιώσω αν έλεγαν έτσι και τους μυστικούς εκπαιδευμένους αστυνομικούς που συνόδευαν τις πτήσεις στο εσωτερικό των ΗΠΑ μετά την 11/9/2001, αλλά δεν βγάζω άκρη με τα γκουγκλίσματα.
 

Cadmian

New member
Καταδρομέας έχει τον Ranger ο Θεόδωρος Γιαννούτσος, ενώ η Ιωάννα Μπασσακίδου προσθέτει στο airborne και την απόδοση αεραποβατικός.
 
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