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Semi-detached housing (often abbreviated to semi in the UK, Canada and Australia, as in "three-bedroom semi") consists of pairs of houses built side by side as units sharing a party wall and usually in such a way that each house's layout is a mirror image of its twin. This style of housing, although built throughout the world, is commonly seen as particularly symbolic of the suburbanisation of the United Kingdom and Ireland, or post-war homes in Central Canada. Confusingly, this is sometimes colloquially called a duplex in New England, other parts of the United States, and most of Canada, a term used elsewhere for two apartments, one above the other.

Καλό μεσημέρι σε όλους. Έχω μπλέξει με διάφορα είδη κατοικιών (βρισκόμαστε στη σύγχρονη Ιρλανδία), μεταξύ των οποίων και το semi-d. Έχω ακόμη τα: three-bed semi, Victorian terrace, penthouse flat αλλά και το townhouse. Θα με βοηθήσετε να κάνω έναν διαχωρισμό (στο δικό μου φτωχό λεξιλόγιο, όλα τα σπίτια είναι ή διαμερίσματα ή μεζονέτες...)
 

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Άμα στείλεις όλη τη λίστα σου.
Από αυτά που αναφέρεις παντως διαμέρισμα είναι μόνο το penthouse flat, και τι διαμέρισμα! Ρετιρέ!
 

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Detached και Semi-detached πάντως τα ξέρω ανεξάρτητες και ημιανεξάρτητες (μονο)κατοικίες. Δεν ξέρω αν ο όρος είναι δόκιμος, αλλά ανεξάρτητο είναι αυτο που δεν ακουμπάει σε άλλο σπίτι και ημιανεξάρτητο αυτό που μοιράζεται τον ένα τοίχο με το διπλανό, ενώ terraced house/ townhouse αυτό που ακουμπάει κι από τις δύο μεριές άλλα σπίτια. Το terraced house είναι κλασσικό δείγμα μαζικής οικιστικής ανάπτυξης του 19ου αιώνα στις πόλεις.
 

Zazula

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Semi-detached housing consists of pairs of houses built in such a way that each house's layout is a mirror image of its twin, commonly seen as particularly symbolic of post-war homes in Central Canada.
Αξίζει να σημειωθεί ότι με τέτοια λογική (κατοπτρικές δίδυμες μονοκατοικίες) ήταν τα προσφυγικά (τουλάχιστον στην πόλη μου).
 

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Α, ναι, να προσθέσω στο αρχικό ότι η ημιανεξάρτητη μονοκατοικία τριών υπνοδωματίων είναι μάλλον ο πιο συνηθισμενος τύπος οικογενειακής κατοικίας στα προάστεια. Καθόλου προσφυγικά ή φτωχικά, αλλά σίγουρα μαζικής κατασκευής.
 

nickel

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Από τη σελίδα της Wikipedia List of House Types ξεχώρισα τα παρακάτω, που θα πρέπει να επιδιώξουμε να τους βρούμε ελληνικές αποδόσεις.


House types

Detached single-unit housing
• A-frame:
so-called because of the appearance of the structure, namely steep roofline.
American Colonial: a traditional style of house that originated in the eastmost United States of America.
Bungalow: any simple, single-story house without any basement.
Castle: primarily a defensive structure/dwelling build during the Dark Ages and the Middle Ages, and also during the 18th century and the 19th century.
Chattel house: a small wooden house occupied by working-class people on Barbados.
Cottage: is usually a small country dwelling, but weavers' cottages are three-storied townhouses with the top floor reserved for the working quarters.
A farmhouse: is the main residence house on a farm, or a house built with the same type of styling - located anywhere
Igloo: an Inuit-Eskimo temporary or emergency that was made of knife-sliced blocks of packed snow and/or ice in the Arctic regions of Alaska, Canada, Greenland, and Siberian Russia.
Konak: a type of Turkish house that was widely-built during the time of the Ottoman Empire in Turkey, northern Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Jordan, northern Iraq, etc.
Linked houses are "row-houses" or a "semi-detached houses" that are linked structurally only in their foundations. Above ground, these houses appear to be detached houses. Linking up their foundations cuts the cost of constructing them.
Log cabin: a house built by American, Canadian, and Russian frontiersmen and their families which was built of solid, unsquared wooden logs.
Manor House: a large Medieval country house, or one built later on of a similar design, which formerly was the primary dwelling of the nobleman and his family, and also the administrative hub of a Feudal manor, and which was also the lowest unit of land organization and use in the Feudal system during the Dark Ages and the Middle Ages in Europe: in other words, before the ride of the Renaissance and the Age of Enlightenment both of which caused the fall of the Feudal system and serfdom, except for in Russia, where the serfs and vassals were not set free until the second half of the 19th century (the 1850s through the 1890s).
Mansion: a quite-large and usually-luxurious detached house. See also: Manor house, and Georgian House above
maisonette: is flat or apartment in England, that occupies two floors of a building, and so typically has internal stairs.
Prefabricated house: a house whose main structural sections were manufactured in a factory, and then transported to their final building site to be assembled upon a concrete foundation, which had to be poured locally.
Ranch: a rambling single-story house, often containing a garage and sometimes constructed over a basement.
Split-level house: a design of house that was commonly built during the 1950s and 1960s. It has two nearly-equal sections that are located on two different levels, with a short stairway in the corridor connecting them. This kind of house is quite suitable for building on slanted or hilly land.
The detached single-family house is any free-standing house that is structurally separated from its neighboring houses, usually separated by open land, making it distinctive from such dwellings as duplexes, townhouses, and condominiums.
Stilt houses or Pile dwellings: houses raised on stilts over the surface of the soil or a body of water.
Tree house: a house built among the branches or around the trunk of one or more mature trees and does not rest on the ground.
Villa: originally an upper-class country house, though since its origins in Roman times the idea and function of a villa has evolved considerably.

Semi-detached dwellings
• Duplex house
: commonly refers to two separate residences, attached side-by-side, but the term is sometimes used to mean stacked apartments on two different floors (particularly in urban areas such as New York and San Francisco). (See Two decker) The duplex house often looks like either two houses put together, or as a large single home, and both legally and structurally, literally shares a wall between halves. The duplex home can appear as a single townhouse section with two different entrances, though the occasional duplex with a shared common entrance and entry hall have been constructed. The jargon terms "triplex" and "four-plex" are contrived names that refer to similar structures with three or four housing units, or floors if referring to apartments, and again the characteristic sharing of structural walls, as are the townhouse and six pack forms that adapted the savings in materials and costs of a shared load bearing wall.
Two decker (A Double decker building plan): since real-estate advertising generally specifies correctly whether the two-family home is a duplex-house type these are usually more desirable for both rentals or purchases.
Semi-detached: two houses joined together; compare duplex.

Attached Multi-unit housing
• Apartment:
a relatively self-contained housing unit in a building which is often rented out to one person or a family, or two or more people sharing a lease in a partnership, for their exclusive use. Sometimes called a flat or digs (slang). Some locales have legal definitions of what constitutes an apartment. In some locations, "apartment" denotes a building that was built specifically for such units, whereas "flat" denotes a unit in a building that had been originally built as a single-family house, but later on subdivided into some multi-unit house type.[2]
Apartment building, Block of flats: a multi-unit dwelling made up of several (generally four or more) apartments. Contrast this with the two-family house and the three-family dwelling.
Barracks: a type of military housing, formerly connoting a large "open bay" with rows of bunk beds and attached bathroom facilities, but during the most recent several decades for the American Armed Forces most of the new housing units for unmarried servicemen have been constructed with a dormitory-style layout housing two to four servicement. This dormitory-styling providing additional privacy has been found to promote the retention of trained personnel in the all-volunteer Armed Forces of the United States.
Brownstone: a Northeastern United States type of housing unit: see rowhouse.
Bedsit (Mess): A British expression (short for bed-sitting room) for a single-roomed dwelling in a sub-divided larger house. The standard type contains a kitchenette or basic cooking facilities in a combined bedroom/living area, with a separate bathroom and lavatory shared between a number of rooms. Once common in older Victorian properties in British cities, they are less frequently found since the 1980's as a result of tenancy reforms, property prices and renovation grants that favour the refurbishment of such properties into self-contained flats for leasehold sale.
Condominium: a form of ownership with individual apartments for everyone, and co-ownership (by percentages) of all of the common areas, such as corridors, hallways, stairways, lobbies, recreation rooms, porches, rooftops, and any outdoor areas of the grounds of the buildings.
Flat: In Great Britain and Ireland, this means exactly the same as an "apartment". In and around San Francisco, Calif., this term means an apartment that takes up an entire floor of a large house, usually one that has been converted from an older Victorian house.
Garden apartment: a building style usually characterized by two-story, semi-detached buildings, each floor being a separate apartment.
Garden flat: a flat which is at garden (ground) level in a multilevel house or apartment building, especially in the case of Georgian and Victorian terraced housing which has been sub-divided into separate dwellings.
Housing cooperative (or Co-op): a form of ownership in which a non-profit corporation owns the entire apartment building or development and residents own shares in the corporation that correspond to their apartment and a percentage of common areas. In Australia this corresponds with a "company title" apartment.
Housing project: a North American term for government-owned housing for low-income tenants (aka Public housing or Social housing).
Loft or warehouse conversion can be an apartment building wherein part of the unit, usually consisting of the bedroom(s) and/or a second bedroom level bath is sub-divided vertically within the structurally tall bay between the structural floors of a former factory or warehouse building. The lofts created in such are locally supported by columns and bearing walls and not part of the overall original load bearing structure.
Maisonette: an apartment / flat on two levels with internal stairs, or which has its own entrance at street level.
Mess: a building or flat with single bedroom per tenant and shared facilities like toilets and kitchens. These are popular with students, bachelors or low wage earners in the Indian subcontinent. It is similar to the bedsit in the UK. Some variants include multiple tenants per bedroom and inclusion of a centralized maid service or cooked meals with tenancy.
Penthouse: the top floor of multi-story building
Railroad apartment (or railroad flat): a type of apartment that is in a building built on a very narrow lot (usually about as wide as a railroad car, or Pullman car sections thereof).
Rowhouse (USA); also called "Terraced home" (USA); also called "Townhouse": 3 or more houses in a row sharing a "party" wall with its adjacent neighbour. In New York and Boston, "Brownstones" are rowhouses. Rowhouses are typically multiple stories. The term townhouse is currently coming into wider use in the UK, but terraced house (not "terraced home") is more common.
Single Room Occupancy or SRO: a studio apartment, usually occurring with a block of many similar apartments, intended for use as public housing. They may or may not have their own washing, laundry, and kitchen facilities. In the United States, lack of kitchen facilities prevents use of the term "apartment", so such would be classified as a boarding house or hotel.
Studio apartment or Studio flat (UK), or Bachelor apartment or Efficiency apartment: a suite with a single room that doubles as living/sitting room and bedroom, with a kitchenette and bath squeezed in off to one side. The unit is designed for a single occupant or possibly a couple. Especially in Canada and South Africa, also called bachelor, or bachelorette if very small.
Tenement: a multi-unit dwelling usually of frame construction, quite often brick veneered, made up of several (generally many more than four to six) apartments (i.e. a large apartment building) that can be up to five stories. Tenements do not generally have elevators. In the United States the connotation sometimes implies a run-down or poorly-cared-for building. It often refers to a very large apartment building usually constructed during the late nineteenth to early twentieth century era sited in cities or company towns.
Terraced house: Since the late 18th century is a style of housing where (generally) identical individual houses are conjoined into rows - a line of houses which abut directly on to each other built with shared party walls between dwellings whose uniform fronts and uniform height created an ensemble that was more stylish than a "rowhouse". However this is also the UK term for a "rowhouse" regardless of whether the houses are identical or not.
o Back-to-back: Terraced houses which also adjoin a second terrace to the rear. They were a common form of housing for workers during the Industrial Revolution in England.
Tower block or Apartment tower: a high-rise apartment building.
Townhouse: also called Rowhouse (US). In the UK, a townhouse is a traditional term for an upper class house in London (in contrast with country house), and is now coming into use as a term for new terraced houses, which are often three stories tall with a garage on the ground floor.
o Triple decker: a three-family apartment house, usually of frame construction, in which all three apartment units are stacked on top of one another. (For additional characteristics, also see Multifamily home features below.)
Two decker: a two family house consisting of stacked apartments that frequently have similar or identical floor plans. Some two deckers, usually ones starting as single family homes, have one or both floors sub-divided and are therefore three or four-family dwellings. Some have external stairways giving a totally separate entrance, and some, usually those which have been a single family house now sub-divided, are similar to the Maisonette plan but sharing a common external 'main entrance' door and lock, and a main internal hall with stairways letting to the separate apartments.

Movable dwellings
• Park home
, also called Mobile home: it is a prefabricated house that is manufactured off-site.
Tent: usually a lightweight, moveable structure.
Travel trailer or Caravan
Houseboat
 

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Επειδή τα μισά περίπου από αυτά έχουν διαφορετική σημασία στη μία χώρα από την άλλη, ή χρησιμοποιούνται τοπικά ή αναφέρονται σε αρχιτεκτονικό ρυθμό (π.χ. τα αποικιακά), πρώτα πρέπει να τα ξεμπερδέψουμε.
 

nickel

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Τα ξεχωρίζουν οι περισσότεροι ορισμοί, αλλά θα πρέπει και στις αποδόσεις να κάνουμε τη διάκριση (ΗΠΑ) / (ΗΒ).
 

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Έστω, αλλά ή μένουμε στα συγχρονα ή πιάνουμε και τα konak, log cabin, tepee, ιγκλού, γιούρτες κλπ
 

nickel

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Έβαλα λίγα από λογοτεχνία, από ιστορία και από τη γειτονιά μας (για να γίνει πιο εύκολη η λίστα :) ).
 

tuna

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Σας άνοιξα δουλειές, βλέπω...
Θα παρακολουθήσω με μεγάλο ενδιαφέρον την εξέλιξη του νήματος. Εγώ κρατάω προς το παρόν την "ημιανεξάρτητη μονοκατοικία" της SBΕ κι ευχαριστώ θερμά.
 

daeman

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Με την κατάλληλη σύνταξη, σε ορισμένες περιπτώσεις μπορεί να σου φανεί χρήσιμη και η μεσοτοιχία για τα semi-detached και τα terraced, όπως και η διπλοκατοικία για τα semi-detached, η συμμετρική διπλοκατοικία ή η δίδυμη για τα κατοπτρικά.
 

nickel

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Semi-detached είναι η μεζονέτα σε διπλοκατοικία, όχι η διπλοκατοικία. Η διπλοκατοικία είναι δύο μεζονέτες μαζί, δύο semi μαζί.
 

daeman

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Δεν προτείνω όρους και αντιστοιχίες, γιατί πριν κάνω τέτοιες απόπειρες, θα έπρεπε πρώτα να τα διαβάσω όλα και να τα βάλω σε κουτάκια, και αυτό δεν γίνεται τώρα, γιατί ήδη έχω περάσει κατά πολύ το λεξιλογικό μου περιθώριο χρόνου για σήμερα.
Λέξεις αναφέρω που μπορεί να χρησιμέψουν.
 

drsiebenmal

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Η μεζονέτα δεν αναπτύσσεται υποχρεωτικά σε δύο επίπεδα; Το λέει και στο αγγλικό της βίκης αυτό.
 

nickel

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Η μεζονέτα είναι διώροφη ή τριώροφη. Και το semi-detached είναι διώροφη ή τριώροφη κατοικία με τρεις ελεύθερες πλευρές και μεσοτοιχία με το διπλανό semi. Η διπλοκατοικία είναι δύο semi. Πού κολλάμε;
 

Zazula

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Καθόλου προσφυγικά ή φτωχικά, αλλά σίγουρα μαζικής κατασκευής.
Δεν είπα ότι είναι το ίδιο με τα προσφυγικά.
Αλλά ούτε και τα προσφυγικά που γνώρισα εγώ ήταν ιδιαίτερα φτωχικά, πάντως.
Μια απλή σκέψη έγραψα μόνο, επειδή πάντα με γοήτευε η κατοπτρικά δίδυμη σχεδίαση.
 

daeman

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Στη χρήση - καταχρηστικά μεν, δόκιμα δε - έχω ακούσει πολλές φορές να λένε διπλοκατοικία και το σύνολο (τα δύο semi, δίδυμα ή όχι) και τη μία από τις δύο κατοικίες του συνόλου, ανεξαρτήτως ορόφων ή οριζόντιου ή κάθετου διαχωρισμού. Υποθέτω ότι επηρεάζει πολύ η από παλιά καθιερωμένη μονοκατοικία. Και αυτή την ώρα προσπαθώ να βοηθήσω στο ερώτημα της tuna για το λογοτεχνικό κείμενο, όχι στον ορολογικό διαχωρισμό τους. Τι θα γράψει; Μένω σε διώροφη κατοικία με τρεις ελεύθερες πλευρές και μεσοτοιχία με το διπλανό;

-Πού μένεις;
-Σε μια διπλοκατοικία. (Προφανώς, δεν έχω απλωθεί και στις δύο κατοικίες.)

-Τι χτίζεις τώρα, Γιάννη; (συγγενής μηχανικός)
-Κάτι διπλοκατοικίες ξεκίνησα, μωρέ, αλλά δεν ξέρω αν και πότε θα τις τελειώσω. Δεν κουνιέται φύλλο στην αγορά.
 

nickel

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Το πώς θα το πει η tuna θα πρέπει να κριθεί από το είδος του κειμένου και την ακρίβεια που επιβάλλει. Αν η διπλοκατοικία μπορεί να σημαίνει δύο διαφορετικά πράγματα δεν μπαίνει σε κείμενα που επιβάλλουν ακρίβεια. Μπορεί βεβαίως ωραιότατα να πει διπλοκατοικίες αντί για semis, στον πληθυντικό, σε μια πρόταση όπως «On the skyline is a row of 1930s semis in King Street». Ό,τι κι αν καταλάβει ο άλλος, μέσα θα πέσει.
 

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Πάντως εγώ διπλοκατοικία αντιλαμβάνομαι το σπίτι με τα δυο διαμερίσματα με ή χωρίς κοινή είσοδο, όχι τα δυο σπίτια που είναι κολλημένα, γιατί τότε μια σειρά μονοκατοικίες που ακουμπάει η μία την άλλη, όπως είναι στις πόλεις, θα έπρεπε να λέγεται δεκαπλοκατοικία, εικοσαπλοκατοικία κλπ.

Επίσης, μαιζονέτα για μένα είναι το διώροφο διαμέρισμα σε πολυκατοικία, αλλά στην Ελλάδα πλέον χρησιμοποιείται για να δηλώσει οποιαδήποτε διώροφη κατοικία, ειδικά άμα είναι "πολυτελούς κατασκευής". Επειδή λοιπόν υπάρχουν αυτές οι διαφορές στην αντίληψη, γι'αυτό δεν θέλω να καθίσω να φτιάξω τον πίνακα που θα ήταν χρήσιμος αλλά θα μας μπέρδευε.
 
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