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    Σας ευχαριστώ όλους.
    (όχι, δεν είναι ιατρικό το κείμενο)
    Αν άνευ του πνεύματος το γράμμα είναι νεκρόν, το πνεύμα χωρίς του γράμματος εξανεμούται εις ξυλόπνευμα - Ιω. Συκουτρής
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    Λαμβάνοντας όλα υπόψη, νομίζω το suggestive εδω σημαίνει κατι σαν το .. a teasing/tantalising look/taste, a tasty morsel, a quick glimpse - i.e, offer just enough to arouse interest but not enough to satisfy.

    The suggestive answers offer just a teasing amount of information that will leave you wanting more ... they are not meant to be comprehensive.

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    I think “suggestive” answers here is almost like “cheat sheet” answers ... which is a sheet/document with concise answers for quick reference and to aid one’s memory .... suggest here = give the idea, nudge one’s memory, etc.. suggestive = reminding of, helping bring to mind, etc..
    στα ελληνικά, ψάξε γύρευε τώρα.

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    Thank you, Pontios. I'll take into account what you say.
    Αν άνευ του πνεύματος το γράμμα είναι νεκρόν, το πνεύμα χωρίς του γράμματος εξανεμούται εις ξυλόπνευμα - Ιω. Συκουτρής
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    ... buyer beware.

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    yes, don't worry. Just thinking of different possibilities. A nice part of translating.
    Αν άνευ του πνεύματος το γράμμα είναι νεκρόν, το πνεύμα χωρίς του γράμματος εξανεμούται εις ξυλόπνευμα - Ιω. Συκουτρής
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    Quote Originally Posted by antongoun View Post
    yes, don't worry. Just thinking of different possibilities. A nice part of translating.
    ξέφυγα, πάντως (Ι got carried away).
    Ο nickel είχε δίκιο - αυτό που ψάχνουμε είναι περίπου το αντίθετο του "definitive" ..

    a suggestive result/finding .... is a result/finding that seems to show or suggest something..

    suggestive answers =. απαντήσεις που φαίνονται να δείχνουν...

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    Στο Concise History of Greece ο Richard Clogg γράφει:

    Moreover, throughout the period of the Tourkokratia, the klefts afforded a visible and suggestive example of pre-nationalist armed resistance to the Turks. The klefts were essentially bandits whose depredations were directed against Greeks and Turks alike. But their attacks on such visible symbols of Ottoman power as tax collectors led to their being seen in the popular imagination as the defenders of the oppressed Greek raya against their Muslim overlords and to their being credited with almost superhuman powers of bravery and endurance. In an effort to control brigandage, and to ensure the safety of the mountain passes that were essential for the maintenance of trade and imperial communications, the Ottomans established Christian militia forces known as armatoloi. (σελίδα 15)

    Rigas’ endeavours may have had no practical outcome but nonetheless they thoroughly alarmed both the Ottoman authorities and the hierarchy of the Orthodox Church, coinciding as they did with the occupation by the French, with all the panoply of ‘revolutionary liberation’, of the Ionian islands in 1797. This, combined with Bonaparte’s invasion of Egypt, nominally a part of the Ottoman Empire, in the following year, 1798, brought the godless and seditious doctrines of the French Revolution to the very borders of the Empire. The Serbian revolt of 1804, initially a reaction against intolerable oppression by the janissaries but gradually acquiring the character of a national uprising, was an encouraging demonstration of Ottoman vulnerability which was seized upon by the anonymous author of the Hellenic Nomarchy (1806), the most remarkable political tract of the independence period. When the Ionian islands, as part of the settlement at the Congress of Vienna, were in 1815 established as a nominally independent state, under British protection, they afforded a suggestive example of an area of Greek territory not under Ottoman rule. (σελίδα 29)

    Οι αποδόσεις του suggestive στην τρίτη ελληνική έκδοση είναι:

    ...οι κλέφτες αποτελούσαν ορατό και εύγλωττο παράδειγμα της προεπαναστατικής ένοπλης αντίστασης κατά των Τούρκων

    ...αποτέλεσαν ένα ενδεικτικό παράδειγμα περιοχής επί ελληνικού εδάφους...
    Μένω ΕυρώπηΣύγκρουση ιδεών, όχι βία και μισαλλοδοξία: δεν οδηγούν πουθενά. (Λ. Κύρκος)Άντε, πέρασε κι αυτό
    ΕΝΑ ΝΗΜΑ ΤΗΝ ΗΜΕΡΑ ΤΗΝ ΑΝΙΑ ΚΑΝΕΙ ΠΕΡΑ. Staying hungry, staying foolish. Το διαδίκτυο βλάπτει όταν δεν σκέφτεσαι.

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    ... έχει και αυτή την έννοια που μπορεί να ταιριάζει εδώ (that's what it's so confusing here - and why I can't decide);

    suggestive
    adjective
    that suggests; referring to other thoughts, persons, etc.:
    a suggestive critical essay.
    evocative; presented partially rather than in detail.

    So suggestive answers could be answers that are deliberately presented in a concise and partial manner, so that they only hint at or suggest the complete answer (so that the recipient would then need to fill in the rest of the details in their mind and work it out for themselves).

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    Καλημέρα. Δεν έχει και αυτή τη σημασία. Αυτή είναι η κύρια σημασία της λέξης, που αναφέραμε από την αρχή, που αποδίδεται με τα «υπαινικτικός» και «υποδηλωτικός». Και είπαμε ότι δεν κάνει στην antogoun επειδή δεν θέλει να θεωρηθεί ότι ο συγγραφέας έχει κάπου «the complete answer». His answers are only served as suggestions. Ο συγγραφέας δεν κρύβει κάπου πληρέστερες και ακριβείς απαντήσεις, απλώς δέχεται ότι οι σωστές απαντήσεις μπορεί να είναι εντελώς διαφορετικές. Αυτός υποβάλλει «προτάσεις». Ας μην το βασανίσουμε άλλο γιατί θα του αφήσουμε ουλές...
    Μένω ΕυρώπηΣύγκρουση ιδεών, όχι βία και μισαλλοδοξία: δεν οδηγούν πουθενά. (Λ. Κύρκος)Άντε, πέρασε κι αυτό
    ΕΝΑ ΝΗΜΑ ΤΗΝ ΗΜΕΡΑ ΤΗΝ ΑΝΙΑ ΚΑΝΕΙ ΠΕΡΑ. Staying hungry, staying foolish. Το διαδίκτυο βλάπτει όταν δεν σκέφτεσαι.

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