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    Senior Member Theseus's Avatar
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    BTW, as a boy we learnt for tiger, lion, fishy [the present common version in these parts [a fish with a toe!?] and the other many variations the n- word, which goes back to nineteenth century America. In one book I had as a child, there was actually an illustration of someone doing this to a poor unfortunate black slave, who was drawn in an offensive style: caricature. The provenance of the rhyme seems to be America by the use of the word "hollers", even though it is used in dialect English. Its etymology seems to be a variant of C16 hollow, from holla, from French holà stop! (literally: ho there!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AoratiMelani View Post
    Επίσης ξέρω το εξής:

    Έχω έν' αυτοκίνητο
    που όλο όλο τρέχει,
    και πού θα σταματήσει;

    (αυτός που δείχνεις λέει ένα μέρος π.χ. "Αμερική")
    Στην Α-με-ρι-κή.
    Και τι χρώμα θα ζητήσει;

    (αυτός που δείχνεις λέει ένα χρώμα π.χ. "πράσινο")
    Στο πρά-σι-νο.
    Έχει και συνέχεια:

    Έ-χεις πά-νω σου χρώ-μα πρά-σι-νο;
    (κι αυτός που δείχνεις πρέπει να φοράει κάτι πράσινο, αλλιώς το ξαναλές)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dharvatis View Post
    Έχει και συνέχεια:

    Έ-χεις πά-νω σου χρώ-μα πρά-σι-νο;
    (κι αυτός που δείχνεις πρέπει να φοράει κάτι πράσινο, αλλιώς το ξαναλές)
    Ή, όπως το ήξερα εγώ: Έχει η Αμερική (ή: έχει η ση-μαί-α της Α-με-ρι-κής) χρώ-μα πρά-σι-νο;
    Με βρίσκετε και εδώ.

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    For the etymology of "holler" and its use in the USA, see https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=holler (v.). The first counting song thus probably comes from the US.

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