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nickel

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Έψαχνα να βρω μια σελίδα που θα παρουσίαζε συγκεντρωτικά τα διαφορετικά ονόματα που χρησιμοποιούν διάφοροι λαοί (και οι γλώσσες τους) για τους Γερμανούς (δηλ. εκτός από το δικό μας που έχουν και οι Εγγλέζοι, το γαλλικό allemands, το ιταλικό tedeschi, το σλάβικο που θυμίζει τη δική μας λέξη για τους «βάρβαρους», το Dutch και το Deutsch και το Τεύτονες κ.λπ.) και την ετυμολογία τους.

Για ξεκίνημα, ανακάλυψα μια τεράστια σελίδα στη Wikipedia, που έχει και παρατσούκλια, αλλά όχι ετυμολογίες.
List of terms used for Germans

Μια καλή γαλλική σελίδα στον... Λεξιλόγο: Les noms des Allemands - étymologie.

Μια ζουμερή απάντηση σε φόρουμ:
The border between the Netherlands and Germany has its origin in the year 1648 when at the end of the Thirty Years' War the German Empire lost the Protestant Netherlands and Switzerland which both had been German provinces before. Since then, the Lower Franconian dialect developed to today's status of a language, with its own grammar and vocabulary. But people left and right of the border are speaking the same dialect as well; so this border is only political and not a language barrier.
So the Dutch people is of German origin and this is what the word "Dutch" originally means: "deutsch" (German; the German word "deutsch" comes from the old word "thiudisc" or "teodisc" which meant "part of the people" or "belonging to the people" - where "thiut" or "theot" means "people"; see: the Goth king THEODerich the Great). The reason is that the English called their nearest neighbors on the continent as they were: Dutch / Deutsche (Germans), like the French call us "Allemands" as the German(ic) tribe of the Alemannen were their neighbors then. The German Swiss population calls us "Schwaben" (Swabians) 'cause they are of Alemannian origin and their next neighbors to Germany are not considered their cousins, the German Alemannen in today's Baden and the Alsace, but the Swabian, living between river Neckar and the Allgaeu mountains in the Alps. Btw, the Finnish call us "Saksa", for the Saxons were their nearest neighbors (if looking from Finland to northern Germany). Only the Italians call us Germans, too ("tedeschi", also from "teodisc"), for they obviously used a word which the German Lombards in norther Italy used for themselves, and they naturally were the nearest neighbors to the Italian population then.

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nickel

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Ευχαριστώ. Δεν το έβαλα για να μην πάω τη συζήτηση προς τη Γερμανία, αλλά οπωσδήποτε εδώ ανήκει.
 
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