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    Quote Originally Posted by pontios View Post
    We've broken the back of the beast/crisis/journey; we're at the tail end of it.
    Καλημέρα. Αυτό προσπαθούσα να βρω χτες, αλλά δεν λειτουργούσε το σύστημα...
    Μένω ΕυρώπηΣύγκρουση ιδεών, όχι βία και μισαλλοδοξία: δεν οδηγούν πουθενά. (Λ. Κύρκος)Θα περάσει κι αυτό
    ΕΝΑ ΝΗΜΑ ΤΗΝ ΗΜΕΡΑ ΤΗΝ ΑΝΙΑ ΚΑΝΕΙ ΠΕΡΑ. Staying hungry, staying foolish. Το διαδίκτυο βλάπτει όταν δεν σκέφτεσαι.

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    A familiar coat of arms.....

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    Irrelevant but ennobling.....

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    Α, τι πήγες και ξέθαψες... Έχει μια δεκαετία που την έφτιαξα εκείνη τη σελίδα, στο απόγειο της βικιπαιδικής μου δραστηριότητας, και τότε ήταν που δημιουργήθηκε και η δουκική περσόνα. Πλέον έχουν σβήσει και οι δύο, λίγο-πολύ.

    Familiar to whom but me, I wonder? Though I was startled to discover some years ago that the image is used in an article of the Thai Wikipedia; I notified the user who put it there that the arms are fictional and have no place in the mainspace, but there was no response.
    Εἰς τὴν Ἑλλάδα οἱ Νόμοι γίνονται χάριν εἰρωνικῆς ἀντιδιαστολῆς πρὸς τὴν πραγματικότητα.

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    It was a tongue in cheek reply, Duke. The motto seems genuine, except that it should be 'UTENS DIVITIIS MARIS, not DIVITIAS. The Latin verb utor takes the ablative, not the accusative case. And the heraldic description is excellent: if a forgery, it is outstanding. But on Lexilogia there is only one Duke of Waltham and the present owner of the seat is an imposter.

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    I used help for the Latin, and I've been wondering about its accuracy ever since, so thank you for that; I will correct the image when I find myself in the mood.

    I appreciate your kind words about the blazon and this rendering thereof, which are both my own proud creations (in the latter case, done on MS Paint with parts patterned on other arms, hence the low resolution), and I also thank Earion for his compliment, which I did not acknowledge at first in the vain hope of keeping this thread on track. I used to read a lot about heraldry in the Noughties, and even served as chief herald of a micronation for a brief period, though I've gone rusty since then. I might open a relevant thread at some point; blazon is a fascinating mixture of English and French, and it can give rise to all sorts of etymological journeys, which continue to interest me greatly. Even the Latin mottos have been instructive in that sense. And coats of arms tell all sorts of interesting stories, anyway, so a series of posts on particular armorial achievements, studied from both a historical and a linguistic perspective, might prove a rewarding pursuit.
    Εἰς τὴν Ἑλλάδα οἱ Νόμοι γίνονται χάριν εἰρωνικῆς ἀντιδιαστολῆς πρὸς τὴν πραγματικότητα.

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    Μια ενδιαφέρουσα σύμπτωση, ίσως (με την καμήλα) - ίσως και μια άλλη (μικρή) δικαιολογία για τη σύγχυση του Τσίπρα;

    over the hump

    1. past the most difficult part of something.
    "now we have reached this point we are over the hump".
    synonyms: over the worst part, over the worst of it, out of the woods, on the road to recovery, on the up and up, on the way up, getting better, making progress, in the clear.
    "now we have reached this point we are over the hump".

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    Η πιο πιθανή εξήγηση για το ότι ο γάιδαρος έγινε καμήλα θα μπορούσε να είναι ότι δεν μπορούσε εκείνη τη στιγμή να θυμηθεί την αγγλική λέξη για το γάιδαρο. Ευτυχώς, βέβαια, που δεν του ήρθε να μιλήσει για γαλοπούλα, να έχουμε και διπλωματικό επεισόδιο.
    Μένω ΕυρώπηΣύγκρουση ιδεών, όχι βία και μισαλλοδοξία: δεν οδηγούν πουθενά. (Λ. Κύρκος)Θα περάσει κι αυτό
    ΕΝΑ ΝΗΜΑ ΤΗΝ ΗΜΕΡΑ ΤΗΝ ΑΝΙΑ ΚΑΝΕΙ ΠΕΡΑ. Staying hungry, staying foolish. Το διαδίκτυο βλάπτει όταν δεν σκέφτεσαι.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickel View Post
    Ευτυχώς, βέβαια, που δεν του ήρθε να μιλήσει για γαλοπούλα, να έχουμε και διπλωματικό επεισόδιο.

    Yes!
    He could have fallen "fowl" (thus meant) of his neighbour (to the east).

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    Η σκέψη που έκανα είναι καθαρά γλωσσική — και ας περιέχει πολιτικό σκώμμα: Τελικά ο πρωθυπουργός ήταν προφητικός και το γλωσσικό λάθος ήταν που δεν χρησιμοποίησε τον πληθυντικό: and now we have the queues.





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    Μένω ΕυρώπηΣύγκρουση ιδεών, όχι βία και μισαλλοδοξία: δεν οδηγούν πουθενά. (Λ. Κύρκος)Θα περάσει κι αυτό
    ΕΝΑ ΝΗΜΑ ΤΗΝ ΗΜΕΡΑ ΤΗΝ ΑΝΙΑ ΚΑΝΕΙ ΠΕΡΑ. Staying hungry, staying foolish. Το διαδίκτυο βλάπτει όταν δεν σκέφτεσαι.

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