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    voir dire, voire dire = διαδικασία επιλογής των ενόρκων

    Αυτό το voir(e) dire, που προφέρεται όπως στα γαλλικά («βουάρ ντιρ»), σημαίνει «την αλήθεια λέγω». Περιγράφει τη γνωστή διαδικασία επιλογής των ενόρκων με ερωτήσεις από τους συνήγορους των διαδίκων, όπως γίνεται στην Αμερική (και όχι με κλήρωση).

    Voir dire (/ˈvwɑr ˌdiər/) is a legal phrase that refers to a variety of procedures connected with jury trials. It originally referred to an oath taken by jurors to tell the truth (Latin: verum dicere), i.e., to say what is true, what is objectively accurate or subjectively honest, or both. It comes from the Anglo-Norman language.

    The word voir (or voire), in this combination, comes from Old French and derives from Latin verum, "that which is true". It is not immediately related to the modern French word voir, which derives from Latin vidēre ("to see"), though the expression is now often interpreted by false etymology to mean "to see [them] say".

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    Use in the United States
    In the United States, it now generally refers to the process by which prospective jurors are questioned about their backgrounds and potential biases before being chosen to sit on a jury. "Voir Dire is the process by which attorneys select, or perhaps more appropriately reject, certain jurors to hear a case."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickel View Post
    ... Περιγράφει τη γνωστή διαδικασία επιλογής των ενόρκων με ερωτήσεις από τους συνήγορους των διαδίκων, όπως γίνεται στην Αμερική (και όχι με κλήρωση).
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    The jury pool, also known as the venire, is first selected from among the community using a reasonably random method. Jury lists are compiled from voter registrations and driver license/state ID renewals. From those lists, summonses are mailed. A panel of jurors is then assigned to a courtroom. The prospective jurors are randomly selected to sit in the jury box. At this stage they will be questioned in court by the judge and/or attorneys in the United States. Depending on the jurisdiction, attorneys may have an opportunity to mount a challenge for cause argument or use one of a limited number of peremptory challenges. In some jurisdictions that have capital punishment, the jury must be death-qualified to remove those who are opposed to the death penalty. Jury selection and techniques for voir dire are taught to law students in trial advocacy courses. However, attorneys sometimes use expert assistance in systematically choosing the jury, although other uses of jury research are becoming more common. The jury selected is said to have been "empaneled."
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    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_selection


    venire:

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    A writ issued by a judge to a sheriff directing the summons of prospective jurors. Also called venire facias.
    2. The panel of prospective jurors from which a jury is selected.

    [Short for Middle English venire facias, from Medieval Latin venre (facis), (you should cause) to come, a phrase used in the writ, from Latin; see gw- in Indo-European roots.]



    Quote Originally Posted by nickel View Post
    ... It is not immediately related to the modern French word voir, which derives from Latin vidēre ("to see"), though the expression is now often interpreted by false etymology to mean "to see [them] say".
    "To see them say" sounds like jury casting.
    Θεωρητικά, θεωρία και πράξη είναι το ίδιο πράγμα. Στην πράξη, όμως, διαφέρουν.
    When this you see, remember me and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.

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    Κι αν δεν το έχετε δει ακόμη, να δείτε οπωσδήποτε το Runaway Jury.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daeman View Post
    ... "To see them say" sounds like jury casting.
    Quote Originally Posted by dharvatis View Post
    Κι αν δεν το έχετε δει ακόμη, να δείτε οπωσδήποτε το Runaway Jury.
    That's what I'd call grand jury casting "great casting."
    Θεωρητικά, θεωρία και πράξη είναι το ίδιο πράγμα. Στην πράξη, όμως, διαφέρουν.
    When this you see, remember me and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickel View Post
    Αυτό το voire dire, που προφέρεται όπως στα γαλλικά («βουάρ ντιρ»), σημαίνει «την αλήθεια λέγω». Περιγράφει τη γνωστή διαδικασία επιλογής των ενόρκων με ερωτήσεις από τους συνήγορους των διαδίκων, όπως γίνεται στην Αμερική (και όχι με κλήρωση).
    That's about right, Nickel.
    Only in English we drop the first "e" and spell it voir dire

    Jury selection is a 2-step process, really--speaking from experience, not only as juror, but as a federal court interpreter too.

    Step 1: κλήρωση ενόρκων
    (randomly)
    Step 2: πρόκριση ενόρκων (I just made this up to render voir dire)
    (ύστερα από ανάκριση/εξέταση/αξιολόγηση των υποψηφίων με βάση συγκεκριμένα κριτήρια)

    I don't know much about Greek law, but wikipedia has a nice entry on the subject (ένορκος).

    As I understand the above entry, the process of κλήρωση ενόρκων in Greece applies to criminal proceedings only. Furthermore, it's not as random as it sounds. It's based on a jury list, compiled annually by each jurisdiction, and made up of pre-qualified jurors who are subject to challenge.

    So the Greek process is much like ours in the US, but in reverse!
    You do the voir diring ahead of time, we do it at the end.

    Well, I like yours better It saves more time and trouble.

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    In Australia, where it appears the jury selection process is far less sophisticated than in the US, the term voir dire is principally used to refer to a hearing during a trial whereby the admissibility or otherwise of certain evidence, or whether a particular witness is an expert or not, is determined. The hearing is held in the absence of a jury.

    voir dire: A procedure within a trial in the absence of the jury to decide whether certain evidence should be allowed to be put before the jury (Australian Encyclopedia of Law).

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    That's good to know, Cougr. Looks like this legal term applies universally to the UK and its Commonwealth states.

    In the US, the admissibility of evidence is governed by the Federal Rules of Evidence and much like Australia's voir dire procedure, it precedes presentation before a jury.

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